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Hinduism and Buddhism

Kali, a Hindu god
Kali, a Hindu god

Question:

I was interested in learning the relationship between Hinduism and Buddhism. Buddha (Siddhartha Gautama) was originally a Hinduist so it’s only natural for some of that to have bled into his teachings. Some Buddhist teachings actually talk about Hindu gods. There are also the primary concepts of karma and samsara in Buddhism which are directly taken from Hinduism. The problem is that having Hinduism bleed into Buddhism makes Buddhism much less of a philosophy and more of a religion. I can believe in the philosophy of Buddhism, but not necessary the religion.

So my question is: Is Buddhism rooted in Hinduism in the same way that Christianity is rooted in Judaism where to be a Christian you need to basically accept all or most of Judaism too, or is no there no real relationship other than the some of the same shared concepts?

Krishna, another Hindu god
Krishna, another Hindu god

Answer:

As you say, most everyone in that region during Buddha’s day was a Hindu, and yes, most of the religious trappings of Buddhism can be traced back to this in some way. Don’t think, however, that it was Buddha’s plan to “invent” a whole new religion. In his mind, he was a good Hindu, much in the same was as Jesus considered himself a good Jew. The expansion of things into a full-blown “religion” took many years after his death. Historically, the growth of Buddhism and Christianity are similar, just one of many parallels between the two. However, Buddhism is much more flexible and open-ended in what “beliefs” are required, which is one reason the various sects of Buddhism are so different from each other.

Hinduism had existed in that part of the world for… pretty much forever. Hinduism is the oldest of the major religions, going back way before recorded history. There’s no way anyone or any idea in that part of the world could avoid being influenced by this, and those beliefs are still very much a part of Eastern Buddhism today.

The Buddhist creation stories and a great majority of the original gods & deities (although there were also many “regional” additions) are straight from Hinduism. Even the core ideas of the cycle of samsara and karma comes from Hinduism, although it’s a little different there. Reincarnation/Rebirth is also from Hinduism, but again, has changed a bit over the years. These things are not necessarily so much a part of “religion” in the East as they are just the way things work; it’s an ingrained part of the culture.

However, the further Buddhism spreads away from Asia, the less relevant that Hindu influence gets, and in America, the Hindu influence probably works against Buddhism as much as anything else. Buddhism adapts to culture, not the other way around.

Once again, I’ll say it; let’s get back to the basics: Four Noble Truths & Eightfold Path. There’s nothing inherently religious in those, and no one is going to argue against their centrality to Buddhism. All the rest is at least somewhat optional. Certain denominations require certain additional things, and some are very religious in nature, but as we discussed a few weeks ago, you are a Buddhist if you follow the Path. That’s the only requirement.

In my own opinion, if you want to strip all the religion out and use Buddhism as a practice and/or a philosophy, that’s fine. Some people enjoy the rituals and religious aspects, and it helps them stay mindful and respectful, and that’s fine; but it’s not a take-it-or-leave-it proposition as many Western religions are.

Buddha’s Ghostwriters and Hinduism

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A Reader recently wrote:
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I wish to know if buddhist philosophy was actually codified by The Budda himself or by some other saint like Nagarjuna later?

The Buddhist philosophy, i think, is actually based on the vedic philosophy in terms of rebirth and salvation defined as coming out the cycle of rebirths but does not follow the vedic tradition. hence this interest in the origins of the philosophy. I am more interested in knowing how Buddhism is close to Hinduism. somehow I like to believe Buddha as the ninth incarnation of Vishu in the ten incarnations of Vishu.

I have heard that Buddha refusing to answer questions about the vedic philosopy and recommended his followers to follow vedas only if they understand. is it so?

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My Response:
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DISCLAIMER: My opinion follows, there are going to be dissenters whenever verifiable fact competes with faith.

I will admit right now that my knowledge of Hinduism is nowhere near that of Buddhism. To my knowledge, the Vedas (one of the Hindu ‚Äúscriptures‚Äù) did advocate an escape from Samsara (the cycle of rebirth), but I know they had definite ideas of Heaven and Hell, which Buddhism does not support (for the most part). Buddhism has always been a bit vague about exactly what happens when one reaches Nirvana. Generally speaking, yes, much of the “religious” side of Buddhism came straight from Hinduism.

Buddha never codified anything himself as far as I am aware. According to legend, his words were written down just after his death, although more probably the first writings were collected over a long period of time after his death. Very little of what is attributed to Buddha is verifiable– remember that this was a VERY long time ago, and modern scholars aren’t even in agreement about the CENTURY in which Buddha lived. In my admittedly academically slanted opinion, he almost certainly came up with the 4 Noble Truths and Eightfold Path himself, but beyond that, I wouldn’t bet on anything. Still, the words of the later authors ring true, so they are of value whether Buddha actually said them or not.

With all Buddhist doctrine and texts, weigh the words yourself and believe what makes sense to you. Remember the basic POINT of Buddhism: You aren’t trying to please any kind of god or supreme being, you are trying to reach a very personal goal of Enlightenment. Use what works for you and give up what seems unbelievable. You should keep on reading and learning, however, so you are better able to make informed decisions whether to accept or disregard parts of the doctrine. Bear in mind, that not all sects of Buddhism will agree with me on this; some are very doctrinal and strict.

Buddha (or someone writing in his name) is said to have refused to answer questions about “religious” topics, such as the existence of god(s), afterlife, magic, and so forth. He stated that there was simply no way to experience those things firsthand, so there was no way to know for certain about them; anything else would be speculation and a waste of time.

Maybe someday I’ll do a multi-part series on Hinduism; it’ll give me a chance to get back up to speed on that material. Is there any interest in the subject?